This chapter was exciting to read, because I thought it was very interesting to learn how to better argue by using a foul. I also have heard some in real life and tv and I did not know that it was called a foul! This I think is a very cool way to argue!!
This chapter was interesting, I feel like I have either done these things while arguing or they have been done to me, doesn't the last one utter stupidity remind you guys or Torger haha.
It is interesting that things that make a bad argument are still allowed as long as no one calls you out on them. You pretty much say whatever you want while arguing. It's getting more complicated to keep track of all the things you should do but don't have to.
I feel like in an argument it would be hard to think about the tenses you are using! These tools must be last resort tools because they could get pretty vicious! Haha..humiliation.. Nasty language..flipping the bird!?
I guess if you really wanted to learn these techniques seriously you'd have to use them and practice with them until its like second nature, like walking. Until its become so natural you barely know your'e doing it anymore.
Fouls are what make my life, I use these all the time but only in the best kind of arguments, if I was a real mature person I would probably not go toward these.
So this rhetorical "out of bounds" is kinda like breaking rules that don't exist, because there are no rules to rhetoric. But in the rhetorical world, they could potentially be seen as acceptable sins, they are allowed, but they aren't preferred.
I don't think I'd be able to reply fast enough and still be relevant if I was always thinking about the tense I was speaking in! That could get really hard and would definitely require a lot of practice.
I enjoyed the quote" Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference".. IT was interesting to hear him say that obscenities could be used in rhetoric succesfully
I liked reading this chapter, this one seemed easy to follow but stayed interesting. I think the whole argue with fouls is neat, but also seems like it could be used unfairly and meanly.
This chapter was exciting to read, because I thought it was very interesting to learn how to better argue by using a foul. I also have heard some in real life and tv and I did not know that it was called a foul! This I think is a very cool way to argue!!
ReplyDeleteyes calling out fouls seems interesting, unless one team is playing fair and the other is not.
DeleteI think the foul thing in rhetoric is pretty useless. He basically is saying anything goes as long as you don't get called out on it.
DeleteI Agree with exactly what Reva said. This is where that was supposed to go.
DeleteThis chapter was interesting, I feel like I have either done these things while arguing or they have been done to me, doesn't the last one utter stupidity remind you guys or Torger haha.
ReplyDeleteI think Torger would benefit a lot from reading this book. He is the epitome of bad arguing lol.
DeleteI also am bad at arguing and this book has became very helpful and hopefully I have improved my arguing skills for the best.
DeleteLol i thought about Torger too!
DeleteYALL BETTER STOP MAKING FUN OF MY BEST FRIEND.
DeleteI agree exactly with what Reva said
DeleteWHAT this comment was supposed to go on the one above it! thanks Obama
DeleteI also feel like I've used fouls while arguingnd have also had them used against me.
DeleteIt is interesting that things that make a bad argument are still allowed as long as no one calls you out on them. You pretty much say whatever you want while arguing. It's getting more complicated to keep track of all the things you should do but don't have to.
ReplyDeleteAgreed! I feel like you could relate the fouls to lying and not getting caught....right?
DeleteI agree! Just wait till the end.. there will be so many tools to remember by the end!
Deleteyes Kate I think so too on that I think this is a coward act or arguing.
DeleteI think using a foul isn't that common, because you don't often come across someone who isn't going to call you out on something stupid that you said.
DeleteTHis book is starting to just run together.... There are a few things that stick out, but it al seems to be more common sense
DeleteI agree that there is alot to take in when reading this book, hope I'll be able to remember them all.
DeleteI feel like in an argument it would be hard to think about the tenses you are using! These tools must be last resort tools because they could get pretty vicious! Haha..humiliation.. Nasty language..flipping the bird!?
ReplyDeleteI guess if you really wanted to learn these techniques seriously you'd have to use them and practice with them until its like second nature, like walking. Until its become so natural you barely know your'e doing it anymore.
DeleteI mentioned the same thing in my post! I don't think I'd be able to keep up in the argument if I was sitting there thinking about which tense to use.
DeleteFouls are what make my life, I use these all the time but only in the best kind of arguments, if I was a real mature person I would probably not go toward these.
ReplyDeleteI only got to the extent of fouling when arguing becomes fighting..
DeleteI liked the bold sentence "Never argue the inarguable"
ReplyDeleteThis was a helpful chapter.
So this rhetorical "out of bounds" is kinda like breaking rules that don't exist, because there are no rules to rhetoric. But in the rhetorical world, they could potentially be seen as acceptable sins, they are allowed, but they aren't preferred.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I'd be able to reply fast enough and still be relevant if I was always thinking about the tense I was speaking in! That could get really hard and would definitely require a lot of practice.
ReplyDeleteI agree. A lot of this book seems like it could take years of training to fully understand and be able to execute properly.
DeleteAfter a while of it, I believe it becomes instinctual, but I do bleive it would require you to speak carefully for a while to get your point across
DeleteI like the idea of "fallacy of power". I feel like this controls a lot in our society. As does the appeal to popularity.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the quote" Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference".. IT was interesting to hear him say that obscenities could be used in rhetoric succesfully
ReplyDeleteI liked reading this chapter, this one seemed easy to follow but stayed interesting. I think the whole argue with fouls is neat, but also seems like it could be used unfairly and meanly.
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