This chapter really helps with understanding virtue.. it's the "sweet spot".. everyone's is different! I loved the conversation between virtue, disinterest, and practical wisdom. This chapter also talked about the tenses..which is still confusing to me! I actually understand phronesis too! Do any of you understand the tenses tool?
I understand the future part of the tenses. If you're arguing in the future it hasn't happened yet and you can still change it. This makes it easier to argue about changing a policy, and why it could make something better.
Sussing is actually very interesting, because it tells you whther the persuader cuts to chase or not and i thought the orange skin guy was funny im not sure if thats sussing or what kind of tool that was an example of though
This chapter really broadened my understanding of disinterest, virtue, and practical wisdom. I feel like I can figure out the better candidate in politics, to a point, now. Phronesis just seemed like a part of practical wisdom to me though. I didn't feel like it was it's own thing.
Sussing is such a weird word but anyways I like the sweet spot thing and how everyone has a different one. Reminds me a lot of the problems that we have and how political parties want to make sure the way they word things hits that.
Cause and caring are the two legs of the ethos stool and that's what I mostly got out of this chapter summed up. I can't tell you how frustrating it is for me to not know what that means.
I really like phronesis. When you don't know enough about an issue, it ends up tying into practical wisdom and "sussing" which is also an interesting tool for persuasion.
After reading this chapter I seem to have a much better grasp on phronesis though a week from now I won't remember the word or what it applies to but as of right now I understand. The parenting example really helped me what got me was when he started talking about politics and it was all down hill from ther.
This chapter was pretty broing... I just couldn't get into it. Hopefully the others aren't like this because I have read some interesting things in this book and Id like for that to keep occurring hha
I thought sussing was pretty interesting. I think it could be a hard concept to grasp, but a useful one when understood. I also liked the comparable experience. It could definitely help with a lot of different things, including politics.
For the most part i understand this chapter. Tenses and sussing did confuses me a bit, but learning more about disinterest, virtue, and practical wisdom was interesting.
This chapter really helps with understanding virtue.. it's the "sweet spot".. everyone's is different! I loved the conversation between virtue, disinterest, and practical wisdom. This chapter also talked about the tenses..which is still confusing to me! I actually understand phronesis too! Do any of you understand the tenses tool?
ReplyDeleteI dont really understand the tenses tool either!
DeleteI understand the future part of the tenses. If you're arguing in the future it hasn't happened yet and you can still change it. This makes it easier to argue about changing a policy, and why it could make something better.
DeleteI dont really understand it either, til I had seen Revas comment. That makes a lot more sense.
DeleteThis chapter actually cleared up virtue for me quite a bit
DeleteI agree that revas comment does sum tenses up alot more, thank you reva! :)
DeleteSussing is actually very interesting, because it tells you whther the persuader cuts to chase or not and i thought the orange skin guy was funny im not sure if thats sussing or what kind of tool that was an example of though
ReplyDeleteI remember that episode of house. Although the example was for phronesis because House was tuning in on what the patient needed.
DeleteI am still a little confused about the whole sussing part, so I have no idea what your asking. The wording in the book is a little confusing.
DeleteMe either! I thought that was interesting as well! It is very helpful!
DeleteI also liked the orange guy example but not so sure what sussing was all about.
DeleteThis chapter really broadened my understanding of disinterest, virtue, and practical wisdom. I feel like I can figure out the better candidate in politics, to a point, now. Phronesis just seemed like a part of practical wisdom to me though. I didn't feel like it was it's own thing.
ReplyDeleteLol yess this chapter helps us to understand if a person really means what they're saying or if they're lying to you to get what they want.
DeleteThat's what I like..we can kind of tune in on the best candidate! Yea, I agree with that!
DeleteI agree. I think comparable experience can help with weeding out bad candidates as well.
DeleteI got a little lost with sussing, but reading your guys comments makes it a little easier to understand but still a little confused.
ReplyDeleteI am in your same boat buddypal.
DeleteMe too! Sussing is such a weird word and how to apply it is kinda confusing.
DeleteSussing was a bit odd, but reading the tools part at the end kinda helped me understand it ,more
DeleteThat's exactly what I do
DeleteSussing is such a weird word but anyways I like the sweet spot thing and how everyone has a different one. Reminds me a lot of the problems that we have and how political parties want to make sure the way they word things hits that.
ReplyDeleteCause and caring are the two legs of the ethos stool and that's what I mostly got out of this chapter summed up. I can't tell you how frustrating it is for me to not know what that means.
ReplyDeleteI really like phronesis. When you don't know enough about an issue, it ends up tying into practical wisdom and "sussing" which is also an interesting tool for persuasion.
ReplyDeleteI agree sussing is a great tool just being able to cut to the chase in general is handy. Very good tool for persuasion,
DeleteAfter reading this chapter I seem to have a much better grasp on phronesis though a week from now I won't remember the word or what it applies to but as of right now I understand. The parenting example really helped me what got me was when he started talking about politics and it was all down hill from ther.
ReplyDeleteSAAAAAME. I probably wont remember a lot of these phrases but I will remember the basic principles of this book
DeleteSame here. I think that a lot of this book is stuff we won't really remember or need, but the key elements will probably stick with us.
DeleteThis chapter was pretty broing... I just couldn't get into it. Hopefully the others aren't like this because I have read some interesting things in this book and Id like for that to keep occurring hha
ReplyDeleteFor some odd reason I can't get into anything, only sometimes when the examples are very very true.
DeleteI thought sussing was pretty interesting. I think it could be a hard concept to grasp, but a useful one when understood. I also liked the comparable experience. It could definitely help with a lot of different things, including politics.
ReplyDeleteFor the most part i understand this chapter. Tenses and sussing did confuses me a bit, but learning more about disinterest, virtue, and practical wisdom was interesting.
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